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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffTyler Date: May 13, 2006 2:34pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Browse the Live Music Archive

Can I just say that I LOVVVVEEE! the new

"Browse All Artists with Recordings in the Live Music Archive"
http://www.archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator

link. there is finally a full list of all the bands that have shows AND the number of shows they all have! If my memory serves right, the old browse all bands with shows page didn't have the totals, and the total wasn't even on the artist's browse page. just ind. year totals. So cool to see at a glance all the band's totals.

Also, I was so shocked by the number of bands that have just 1 show! wow! EDIT: Hmmm, I wonder if this is an issue of search engine caching? A lot of the (1) shows actually have 0 shows, and the 1 item is the artist's collection page:

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Aetree%20AND%20%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator%3A%22Hieronymus%20Firebrain%22

but then there are bands listed that have (1) but actually have 13 shows or so in the search come up:

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3Aetree%20AND%20%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator%3A%22High%20On%20The%20Hog%22

Hmmm!

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Poster: Dancing Salmon Date: May 14, 2006 12:07am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Browse the Live Music Archive


"Browse All Artists with Recordings in the Live Music Archive"
http://www.archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator

link. there is finally a full list of all the bands that have shows AND the number of shows they all have! If my memory serves right, the old browse all bands with shows page didn't have the totals ....


The old page I used (and still do for now, since I have the secret handshake :-) did have totals per band:

http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php?collection=etree

I never knew what it was called, so it may not have been "browse all bands".

But thanks to Brad and Diana and Jonathan for putting up with all the whinging and starting to implement some of the suggestions. I think the ... vehemence ... of the discussion has really been a compliment to how well the old interface was designed for the end-user (the downloader, searcher, whatever). Now to go explore the new new site :-).

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: May 14, 2006 12:59am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: More views of bands- handy urls

The old browse page is a ghost AFAIK that is not being updated with newer items.

Here are a few different ways to the more focused new band pages, BTW:

Rectangular browse page (alphabetical)

Columnar page-through of tan SE results (can't sort alphabetically)

Columnar huge page of blue SE results (can't sort)

These are in addition to the more direct view to include recordings themselves (with the band pages mixed in too):

Browse recordings and collection pages by band (variously sortable and refinable after click-through)

A big pile o'etree (variously sortable and refinable)

A couple of these are already on the main LMA page.

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2006-05-14 07:59:58

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Poster: macfawlty Date: May 14, 2006 12:31am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Browse the Live Music Archive

Thanks for the second link. It seemed like the best method for browsing to me. That bridge page had the listings by year as well as the link to browse the most popular shows. Now it just goes to the most popular shows. Seems antithetical to THe Archive really. I never thought of the Archive as a popularity review.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: May 14, 2006 1:04am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Browse the Live Music Archive

Now it just goes to the most popular shows.

Not sure what page "it" is, but after getting search engine results, they are re-sortable in various ways- check the righthand side of the results (like, to sort by date).

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2006-05-14 08:04:43

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Poster: Ole Uncle John Date: May 13, 2006 9:06pm
Forum: etree Subject: Squashed Forum box?

NICE.

Glad your coder's Jamaican getaway finaly ended so he could put the links back where all wanted them. ;)

Now.... am I the only one with a compact, 6-8 message 'forum' crammed into the bottom of the page with a huge empty space between it and 'recently reviewed items'??

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: May 13, 2006 9:47pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Squashed Forum box?

Tips on forum
http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=61018

There's a feature req already on the list to increase the default "pre-click" (view more) display to a few more lines.

The empty space is because curators are good about adding "Picks" and the length of that box is pushing stuff down. Thinking about how to deal with that will be on to-do list I guess. Shorten the list of Batting Average and Most Downloaded items to 3 each? Make the staff pick box more sideways? Hmm...

If more notes and links get added to the center pane area over time, that space will be filling in a bit that way too.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: May 13, 2006 10:23pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Browse the Live Music Archive

Also, I was so shocked by the number of bands that have just 1 show! wow! EDIT: Hmmm, I wonder if this is an issue of search engine caching? A lot of the (1) shows actually have 0 shows, and the 1 item is the artist's collection page:

The way it's set up, with the "Creator" name being on a band's "collection page" as well as their discrete shows: Any band that has been activated (OK'd for people to send uploads) will show at least 1 result, the collection page. This is actually a good thing because bands with no shows used to be much less obvious. To a typical person who may have a show to upload, the old browse page didn't display those names and they didn't easily know they could send shows for bands that could really use at least one.

The number mismatch could be some kind of caching thing (don't know enough to say)- and if so, some of the larger-than-expected numbers might be due to test pages engineers were making prior to the move.